Question:
What is the difference between the Gregorian and Julian calendars?
Disgruntled Biscuit
2006-10-03 04:01:47 UTC
When did they come into use, how were they structured, when did they fall out of use (if applicable) and how many days were lost during the transition between calendars?

I can't for the life of me find information that isn't confusing as hell. I'd be delighted if someone could put it into layman's terms for me, refraining from just cutting and pasting information from the internet (I've looked there already).

Just curious as I am researching the validity of some New Age texts, and would like this information for reference.

Cheers guys!
Thirteen answers:
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2006-10-03 04:05:12 UTC
The Gregorian calendar is the calendar system that is used today. It is a revision of the Julian calendar that preceded it.



Until 1582 AD, western nations measured time using the Julian calendar. This calendar was authorized by Julius Caesar in 46 BC. It is based on the assumption that a year is 365.25 days. Every fourth year is declared a leap year when an extra day is added to February.



The only real problem with the Julian calendar was its handling of leap years. Inserting one leap year in every four years results in a calendar year averaging 365.25 days, a good but not perfect match to the real calendar year of about 365.242189 days. This causes an "error" of about .75 days per century.



When the Gregorian calendar was authorized, a correction was made to attempt to bring the current date in line with dates in the year 1 in the Julian calendar. The correction was miscalculated by two days and only ten days were dropped instead of twelve. Pope Gregory decreed that the day following October 4, 1582, should be called October 15, 1582. This calendar still has an error factor of three days every 10,000 years, and eventually a correction will have to be made.



Regrettably, it took from 1582 to 1918 for the Julian calendar to completely die out, so you do have to make clear which one is being used for dates in that interval. For example, most Catholic nations switched over immediately; most Protestant nations took considerably longer, and the USSR didn't change to the Gregorian calendar until 1918.
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2016-12-24 14:20:36 UTC
Gregorian Vs Julian Calendar
2016-11-16 22:26:36 UTC
Julian Vs Gregorian Calendar
2006-10-03 04:33:27 UTC
The calendar currently in worldwide use for secular purposes based on a cycle of 400 years comprising 146,097 days, giving a year of average length 365.2425 days. The Gregorian calendar is a modification of the Julian calendar in which leap years are omitted in years divisible by 100 but not divisible by 400. By this rule, the year 1900 was not a leap year (1900 is divisible by 100 and not divisible by 400), but the year 2000 will be a leap year (2000 is divisible by 400).



The Gregorian calendar was constructed to give a close approximation to the tropical year, which is the actual length of time it takes for the Earth to complete one orbit around the Sun.



The Julian calendar was switched over to the Gregorian starting in 1582, at which point the 10 day difference between the actual time of year and traditional time of year on which calendrical events occurred became intolerable. The switchover was bitterly opposed by much of the populace, who feared it was attempt by landlords to cheat then out of a week and a half's rent. However, when Pope Gregory XIII decreed that the day after October 4, 1582 would be October 15, 1582, the Catholic countries of France, Spain, Portugal, and Italy complied. Various Catholic German countries (Germany was not yet unified), Belgium, the Netherlands, and Switzerland followed suit within a year or two, and Hungary followed in 1587.



Because of the Pope's decree, the reform of the Julian calendar came to be known as the Gregorian calendar. However, the rest of Europe did not follow suit for more than a century.



The Protestant German countries adopted the Gregorian reform in 1700. By this time, the calendar trailed the seasons by 11 days. England (and the American colonies) finally followed suit in 1752, and Wednesday, September 2, 1752 was immediately followed by Thursday, September 14, 1752. This traumatic change resulted in widespread riots and the populace demanding "Give us the eleven days back!"



English Calendar:



September 1752

Su M Tu W Th F Sa

&; &; 1 2 14 15 16

17 18 19 20 21 22 23

24 25 26 27 28 29 30



Sweden followed England's lead in 1753. Russia, however, did not follow suit until 1918, when January 31, 1918 was immediately followed by February 14th. In fact, however, the USSR is not on the Gregorian calendar, but on a more accurate one of their own devising. The USSR calendar is designed to more closely approximate the true length of the tropical year, thus has one additional rule for when a year is a leap year. It will remain in synchronization with the Gregorian calendar for thousands more years, by which time one or both will have probably fallen into disuse. Similarly, Iranian calendar is also a more accurate version of the Gregorian calendar (Ross).



Formulas for computing the Julian date from the Gregorian dates are given in Danby (1988) and Sinnott (1991). Go to the link provided to see the formulae.
a random night
2006-10-03 04:27:05 UTC
The Julian calendar was invented by Julius Caesar, as he wanted to develop a more practical way of keeping time, this was because there was no set calendar at all, there were 8 definate months but then a bit of a sketchy period inbetween December and March that was unnamed and had no set time period, understandably this was all rather irritating so Caeser decided to make up his own year, presumably with the help of astronomers of the time. As they were astronomers of his time, they got it slightly wrong.



The calendar gave one extra day a year - sorry - maths isn't my forte and I cant remember exactly what happened,( I know there was a problem with leap years) , and so needed to be changed, also it made Easter difficult to determine and it was decided that certain dates in the calendar had to set in stone, such as the Spring Equinox in March.



The Gregorian calendar was introduced to stop the anomalies, although I don't know who it was introduced by i'm afraid, but I know it's based on our rotation round the sun. I would imagine that this would have to have been determined much later as astronomers must have been able to fix certain dates in the calendar with certain astronomical events - Spring Equinox 21st March, Autumn Equinox 12st Sept (The Equinoxes are the days in the year that have exactly the same amount of day and night) Summer Solstice, the shortest day, on the 21st June and Winter Solstice, the shortest day, the 21st December.



What I find very exciting is that the calendars all rvolve around very old pagan feast days, just goes to show theres nothing new under the sun, is there?
2006-10-03 04:03:25 UTC
YYDDD is Julian. The last two digits of the year followed by the number of days within that year. March 1 would be 06060. April 1 would be 06090. April 15 would be 06105 and so on. MMDDYY is Gregorian.

Julian dates are used in computers mostly.
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2015-08-13 15:18:41 UTC
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What is the difference between the Gregorian and Julian calendars?

When did they come into use, how were they structured, when did they fall out of use (if applicable) and how many days were lost during the transition between calendars?



I can't for the life of me find information that isn't confusing as hell. I'd be delighted if someone could put...
SeabourneFerriesLtd
2006-10-03 04:10:03 UTC
The difference is about 8 days and the new calandar came into force around 1582

the changes were made to bring the calandar back into line with observed phenomena (Primarily mid winter and mid summer solstices) the reason that the calandar got out of sync, was due to the fact that the earth takes an 'odd' amount of time to make a complete revolution of the sun - 365.242375 days - hence leap years. Nowdays you will find that scientists also add 'leap seconds' to their calculations to more closely follow the solar year
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pathowiz
2006-10-03 04:08:55 UTC
Quran gives very precise answer. Allah (meaning the God) had created sun and moon so that you can keep track of time and months and years. From SUN only you can't keep track of years. It is the lunar shapes according to different dates that guided man to make calender and there had alwyas been 12 month from the time the earth was created
2006-10-03 04:05:26 UTC
Go here :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar
Lover
2006-10-03 04:18:15 UTC
The average length of a year in the Julian Calendar is 365.25 days (plus one additional day being added every four years). This is significantly longer than the "real" length of the solar year, 365.2422 days. Tthis error accumulates so that after about 131 years the calendar is out of sync with the equinoxes and solstices by one day.



Pope Paul III recruited several astronomers, principally the Jesuit Christopher Clavius (1537-1612), to come up with a solution. They built upon calendar reform proposals by the astronomer and physician Luigi Lilio (d. 1576). When Pope Gregory XIII was elected he found various proposals for calendar reform before him, and decided in favor of that of Clavius. On 1582-02-24 he issued a papal bull, Inter Gravissimas, establishing what is now called the Gregorian Calendar reform.



The Gregorian reform consisted of the following:

-Ten days were omitted from the calendar, and it was decreed that the day following (Thursday) October 4, 1582 (which is October 5, 1582, in the old calendar) would thenceforth be known as (Friday) October 15, 1582.

-The rule for leap years was changed. In the Julian Calendar a year is a leap year if it is divisible by 4. In the Gregorian Calendar a year is a leap year if either it is divisible by 4 but not by 100, or it is divisible by 400. In other words, a year which is divisible by 4 is a leap year unless it is divisible by 100 but not by 400 (in which case it is not a leap year). Thus the years 1600 and 2000 are leap years, but 1700, 1800, 1900 and 2100 are not.

-New rules for the determination of the date of Easter were adopted.

-The position of the extra day in a leap year was moved from the day before February 25th to the day following February 28th.



In the 16th century, the difference between the Julian calendar and the seasons had accumulated to 10 days. This circumstance led to a reform of the calendar, which was introduced by pope Gregor XIII. Under this reform, 4 October 1582, should be followed by 15 October 1582, while the sequence of the days of the week should not be affected. In addition, the leap year rule was modified by making all century years not divisible by 400 common years, despite they are divisible by 4. Thus the century years 1700, 1800, 1900, and 2100 are common years, while 1600 and 2000 are leap years. With this new rule, 400 Gregorian years have 146,097 days, with an average length of the year of 146,097/400 = 365.2425 days. There still is a slight difference between the Gregorian calendar and the exact length of the year, but this will amount to one day in more than 3,000 years. Finally, the calendar was not to be used to convert any Julian date before 5 October 1582 to the corresponding Gregorian date.



Introduction of the Gregorian Calendar

Only Spain, Portugal, and parts of Italy began to use the new calendar on 15 October 1582, the other Catholic European countries introducing it only until 1584. The Protestants refused to take over the new style and hung on to the Julian calendar until as late as 1700, when the "Improved Calendar" was adopted. The only difference between the "Improved" and the Gregorian calendar was the determination of Easter but finally, in 1775, the Protestants threw over board their "astronomical" Easter calculation and, since 1776, celebrated Easter together with the Catholic church. A detailed list of the adoption of the new calendar shows when and where the Gregorian or the "Improved" calendar was introduced.



In Sweden the switch from the old to the new calender was performed under weird circumstances. First, the year 1700 was declared a common year instead of a leap year, thus putting the calendar in Sweden one day ahead of the Julian calendar and leaving a difference between the Gregorian and the Swedish calendar of ten days. The re-adoption of the Julian calendar was done by adding a 30th day to the February of the year 1712. The Swedish waited another 41 years before introducing the Gregorian calender in 1753.



Most of the eastern European countries used the Julian calendar until the beginning 20th century, Russia having territories in which the Gregorian calendar had been adopted before they fell to Russia (Finland became a Russian province in 1809, Poland in 1815). Russia adopted the Julian calendar as late as 1700, until then counting the years from the "creation of the world" which was assumed to have taken place in 5509 BCE, and beginning the year on 1 September. The Julian calendar was switched to by declaring that 31 December 7208 should be followed by 1 January 1700.



In Turkey the Islamic calendar was in use until 1926.



With the introduction of the Julian calendar a period of almost complete disorder in the Roman calendar came to an end. Until then, the beginning of the month was announced at the first visibility of the moon's crescent after new moon, though the year was reckoned depending on the sun. The lengths of the years in a four year cycle of this lunisolar calendar were 355, 377, 355, and 378 days, which was almost four days longer than the true length of four years. Soon the calendar derailed because of leap years introduced to keep it aligned with the sun. In 47 BCE, the calendar was in error by about three months.



The astronomer Sosigenes from Alexandria was given, by Julius Caesar, the task of designing an easy-to-use and exact calendar. Sosigenes assumed that the year had a length of 3651/4 days and worked out the leap year rule, by which three common years should be followed by one leap year, the former having 365 days each, while the latter should have 366 days. The months were no longer to be determined by the moon's phases and were given lengths of 30 or 31 days. The length of February was not changed in common years, while in leap years the extra day was to be inserted after 24 February. By the Romans, 24 February was referred to as "day 6 before the calends of March" (ante diem VI Kal. Martii), which led to the extra day being called "second day 6 before the calends of March" (ante diem bis VI Kal. Mar.). Until today the french "année bissextile" reminds us of this curiosity. To align the calendar with the sun, two extra months were inserted, giving this year 445 days, which is why it was called the "annus confusionis". More on the Roman counting of days can be found under The Roman Calendar.



Even the relatively simple leap year rule was, it seems, too complicated for many Romans. Instead of making ever fourth year a leap year, this was done with every third year, which made another reform necessary. This was carried out under Caesars successor Augustus by making three leap years common years until the calendar was aligned with the sun again.



The years were counted "after the foundation of the city" (ab urbe condita), which was thought to have happened in 753 BCE. After August's reform, the Roman year 761 and every fourth year became leap years. Only by coincidence this year corresponds to our year 8, which is divisible by 4.



The counting of the years according to our common era was suggested by the monk Dionysius Exiguus in the 6th century, but only from the 9th century this era became the ordinary counting in Europe.



This Julian calendar was used until as late as the beginning 20th century, some Orthodox Churches still using it for determining some of their feast days. In the Middle Ages already, the days in the months were simply counted instead of hanging on to the rather intricate Roman system.



Beginnings Of The Year

Our New Year's Day, 1 January, was introduced by the Romans, which earlier started their year with 1 March. In the Middle Ages some different days came into use as the Beginning of a year because of some pre-Christian New Year's rituals not liked by the emerging Christian church.



Circumcision style

This is the beginning of the year with 1 January, on which, in the 7th century, the circumcision of Christ, was put, because it was hard to overcome that day as the start of a new year. In civil life, the new year was merely always celebrated on this day, despite different styles in use officially. For official dating, this style was commonly used only since the introduction of the Gregorian calendar. The Papal office has been using this style for brevets since 1621, for bulls since 1691. Other styles have been replaced by 1 January for instance in France in 1563, in the Netherlands and in the diocese Geneva in 1575, in Florence and Pisa in 1749, in England together with the introduction of the Gregorian calendar in whole Britain in 1753, and finally in the diocese Treves during the 30-years-war (1618-1648).



Christmas style

The birth of Christ being celebrated on Christmas day, 25 December, the beginning of the new year was put on this day. In this style 24 December 851 was followed by 25 December 852. This style was used widely in Germany. Documents of the royal or imperial office were dated according to this style without exception until the beginning 13th century. During the reigns of the kings from Philipp (r. 1198-1208) to Konrad IV. (1237/50-1254), the Annunciation style was used sometimes, but since Rudolf I. (r. 1273-1291) the Christmas and Circumcision styles were both used.



Other territories in which the Christmas style was in use were the territories of the Order of the Teutonic Knights, the spanish Netherlands (large parts of what is now Belgium), where the Circumcision style was officially introduced in 1575, and England, where the Christmas style was replaced by the Annuctiation style during the 13th century. In Spain, the Annuntiation style was abolished and the Christmas style adopted in 1350 (Aragon) and 1383 (Castilla) until 1556, when the Circumcision style was introduced.



In the German dioceses the Christmas style was used, with some exceptions (e. g. Treves, Münster).



Annunciation style

This use makes the year begin on 25 March, the day of the annunciation of the Incarnation. The Incarnation having to have taken place before the birth of Christ, the year should have started on 25 March of the preceding year by means of our "normal" calculation. Thus, the year 1405 of the Incarnation must begin on 25 March 1404 and end on 24 March 1405, Julian. But, only in Pisa and the territories influenced by this city this calculation, the calculus pisanus, was adopted. In Florence the year 1405 of the Incarnation started on 25 March 1405 and ended on 24 March 1406, Julian. This was called the calculus florentinus. A great disadvantage of this style is the possibility of Easter occurring not at all, once, or twice in a year.



In Germany, the diocese of Treves used the Annunciation style until the 30-year-war (1618-1648), in Luxemburg and Lotharingia it was used until 1575 and 1579, respectively.



In Britain, the calculus florentinus was in use until the year 1751, which began on 25 March 1751, Julian. The succeeding year 1752 was decreed to begin on 1 January 1752, Julian, and in September that same year, the Gregorian calendar was adopted. Thus, the year 1751 had a length of only 282 days, and 1752 was shortened again, by 11 days, 2 September being followed by 14 September.



The Papal office dated documents according to the Annunciation style from the 10th century until the 13th century, using the calculus Florentinus. Under the popes from Urban II. to Lucius II., the calculus Pisanus was observed sometimes. In France, the Annunciation style could be found from the end of the 10th century until the 12th century, when the Easter style followed. Finally, the Swiss diocese Lausanne used the Annuntiation style until the 16th century.



Easter style

This style lets the year begin on Easter saturday, but there were different uses, which made the year begin on Good Friday already (e. g. in Flanders and Brabant). The feast of Easter falls on a day somewhere between 22 March and 25 April, and this led to the possibility of a date occuring twice a year. The two dates had to be distinguished by marking them "after Easter" and "before Easter".



The Easter style was mainly used in France since the reign of king Philipp I (r. 1059/60-1108). Only as late as 1563 the Circumcision style was adopted officially. In Germany, documents of the diocese of Cologne were dated in the Easter style, which was then replaced by the Christmas style in 1310. In Flanders, Brabant, and Hennegau, which are all parts of the Netherlands, and in the Swiss dioceses of Geneva (from around 1220 until 1305) and Sitten (from around 1200 until around 1250), the Easter style was observed, too. In the Swiss dioceses mentioned, the Christmas style was adopted then.



1 March

The original Roman beginning of the year on 1 March was in use in the Republic of Venice until 1797, when the republic broke down. In Russia, the year began on 1 March until the 14th century, when the beginning of the year was moved to 1 September.



The original Roman Beginning of the year on 1 March was in use in Russia until the 14th century. In the Republic of Venice this was the official style until it was swept away by the French in 1797.



1 September

Since the 13th century, this style became common in Russia, where it was used until the adoption of the Julian calendar. The years were counted "after the creation of the world", so 31 August 1522 Julian was designated 31 August 7030 in Russia. The succeeding day was 1 September 7031.







Sosigenes' leap year rule made four years have 1461 days, resulting in an average length of one year of 365.25 days, which is about 11 minutes longer than the exact length of the year. This difference had amounted to 10 days in the 16th century, which meant that the beginning of the year (1 January) had slowly moved towards spring.



Today, the difference between the Julian and the Gregorian calendar is 13 days. With some Orthodox churches celebrating several feast days according to the Julian calendar, their Christmas Day falls on 7 January of the following year, according to the Gregorian calendar.



The Gregorian calendar is the calendar that is used nearly everywhere in the world. A modification of the Julian calendar, it was first proposed by the Calabrian doctor Aloysius Lilius, and was decreed by Pope Gregory XIII, for whom it was named, on 24 February 1582 via the papal bull Inter gravissimas. Its years are numbered based on the traditional birth year of Jesus Christ, which is labeled the "anno Domini" era [1].



The Gregorian Calendar was devised both because the mean year in the Julian Calendar was slightly too long, causing the vernal equinox to slowly drift backwards in the calendar year, and because the lunar calendar used to compute the date of Easter had grown conspicuously in error as well.





Tomb of Pope Gregory XIII in St. Peter's Basilica.The Gregorian calendar system dealt with these problems by dropping a certain number of days to bring the calendar back into synchronization with the seasons, and then slightly shortening the average number of days in a calendar year, by omitting three Julian leap-days every 400 years.
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